I believe that's just an estimate. I like the extremely low center of gravity, and the fact that its real world fuel economy is likely to be quite good. I think the end result / production model looks better than the over the top concept version. Thanks. There is a back seat, and we selfishly asked a media colleague to sit there for a short drive. If I had a race track in my back yard I wouldnt mind having a really powerful car but for the street / public roads. If that sounds like too much for one model to bear, you haven't driven it yet. What can I do to make it go above the 125 mark. 
In a straight line, under less than ideal conditions, we managed a 0-to-60-mph time of 8.3 seconds in only a few quick tries--launching at 5,000 rpm, quick clutch engagement, rubber in first and second. Scion kept a layer of water on the surface to make drifting easier for those not schooled in the sport. It is nicely balanced, with 53 percent of its weight on the front wheels, which chief engineer Tetsuya Tada said he preferred to a 50/50 balance. The only choices owners will make are transmission, color and some accessories. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR7jdJ_Nhig"]Quick highway run - YouTube[/ame]. Or you could leave the stock rubber on and go drifting. Scion's only hope on FRS, but everyone is buying BRZ instead. Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain. It's an achievement no doubt. In an earlier drive late last year of the identical-twin BRZ on a wet track in Japan, we really liked the automatic, with its rev-matching downshifts and quick, paddle-operated upshifts. Many say theyre close to the MX-5 Miata in terms of being fun to drive so in that case theres no doubt the BRZ/FR-S are well worth the money. Squeezed 235 kph (approx 146 mph) out of mine but it was on E85 and a long stretch of tarmac and I ran out of it while the speed was still (very) slowly increasing. The front MacPherson strut and rear double wishbones combined with the standard Torsen limit-slip meant that over the track's two big whoop-de-dos you can keep it flat and all that results is a nice, controlled sideways slide, with the back end drifting out a little more than the front. Child seats fit in the back seats, Scion says. That doesn't seem right. Because that's a redundant brand, that makes no sense and goes straight to the fail. (Subaru is bringing in 6,000 in the first 12 months.) Our first drive at Spring Mountain was on an improvised figure-eight drift course, with instruction by no less than Formula D great Ken The Gush Gushi, who drives an FR-S in competition. Unlike my beast which can pass everything except a gas station. In fact, we stayed on the track all afternoon until they finally kicked us off at about 4 p.m. or so, such was the car's sway over us. You're right. With its 25 mpg combined manual and 28 mpg combined automatic you can even say it's economical. People often bring up the Genesis Coupe (are some other merely quicker car) for comparison saying it's a much better deal because it has 274hp and runs a quicker 0-60, etc. I have taken my car to 135. (Smoothness and minimal input is the key.). So, Scion, please, disappear. If I had a race track in my back yard I wouldnt mind having a really powerful car but for the street / public roads its mostly a waste for most of the time. Scion now survives hard period. They may not be all that fast but they are among the most fun / rewarding cars to drive for the money and then some according to reports. Amended. If this looked EXACTLY like the (Concept) This would have blown the sales door Off! We drove it all over Spring Mountain Motorsports Ranch in beautiful, sunny Pahrump, Nev., and never got tired of it. Drives: Toyota GT86, 66 beetle, 11 GSXR 750. The Ferrari 458 too, estimated quicker actually! You can drive it all week then race or drift it all weekend. Scion will bring in 10,000 in the remainder of this year and 20,000 in 2013. The real number, we think, lies somewhere in between. Yes what you say is very true. Those things only matter if you for some reason race your daily driver's for a living.
), you like sports cars, and this is the car for you. Longest straight stretch of road we have around here and i ran out of room haha. Early morning LOL! The top speed is not limited to 125, our gearing can do 170+. The Scion version of the two cars has a softer front end that is supposed to reduce understeer. Though getting to those speeds on stock performance is the hard part. Toyota added the highly efficient D4S direct- and port-fuel injection system that helps broaden the 2.0-liter boxer's power and torque bands. Finally, Scion built a car worth driving and doesn't look like it was designed by 3 year olds. We drove both six-speed manual and six-speed automatic versions of the FR-S.
That's pretty good. Our car experts choose every product we feature. We may earn money from the links on this page. The electric motors change and flux their torque points throughout the 11.2-8.4 l/100 km (21-28 mpg US / 25-34 mpg UK), 4.23 m (167 in) long, 1.78 m (70 in) wide, 1.30 m (51 in) high. My 02 es300 would hit 140 Drag limited, it was heavier, rode higher, and had less horses. Scion has about 1,000 dealers, so you should be able to get a hold of one. I don't As fast as a 997 GT3 RS. There is no need in their production, except FRS, but Toyota simply could export GT86 to the US market. I know Toyota aimed Scions at young buyers, but no self respecting twenty something like me would be caught dead in an XA, XB, or XD. Fold down those seats and the trunk space expands to fit the four racing wheels and tires you will definitely have for track days and drifting. :(. But to answer the question, yes, you want it. Personally I pick the car which is most fun to drive over the one "s" which is merely quicker, have more HP, etc. This is at the lower end of the sports-car spectrum in both power and price. Powertrain: 2.0-liter, 200-hp, 151-lb-ft H4; RWD, six-speed manual, The Lamborghini Aventador Ultimae Bids Farewell, Lucid Air May Be the Most Efficient Electric Car, Bell's Win Complicates NASCAR Cup Playoff Picture, The Ford F-150 Raptor R Brings Back the V8, This content is created and maintained by a third party, and imported onto this page to help users provide their email addresses. Im assuming droping the car with coilovers, adding a spoiler for down-force, and just pushing the engine with a turbo/charger. I saw a gray one, yesterday, these cars look so much more awesome in person. Power peaks at 200 horses at 7,000 rpm, just shy of the 7,400-rpm redline, and torque peaks at 151 ft-lb between 6,400 rpm and 6,600 rpm. Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum, Cosmetic Modification (Interior/Exterior/Lighting), Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB, Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum - FT86CLUB. Inside are nicely bolstered seats, a grippy steering wheel that is just more than 14 inches in diameter and a digital speedometer to keep up with the revs more accurately. People are staking out ports to watch them roll off ships. It's true, you have always been able to buy great sports cars; those never went away. I plan on tracking mine. With its back seat and trunk you can even convince the spouse that it is practical. A lot of folks seem to miss this reality a choose #s above all else regardless. Good catch. How does the frs not go faster? A car with adequate / moderate power can be a lot more fun because you can actually run it through the gears without worry of going to jail for running 30+ over the limit just tapping the throttle briefly. So i was doing some digging around and I found out that the TS of the frs is 125, and its drag limited.
Remember, this is not a Porsche 911/Ferrari 458/Porsche Cayman/BMW Z4 competitor. Later this year there will be TRD options such as exhaust, suspension upgrades and body kits and wheels from Five Axis. The FR-S has the same tires as the Toyota Prius, ironically, a move made for cost and wear considerations. For track days you might want a different set of pads. After a while we detected some brake fade in one of the models we drove, but that might have been a result of overbraking by the previous driver. So a set of grippier aftermarket tires would no doubt increase the amount of power you could put down to the ground.
Either way, at 28k Usd, like the Subie and Toyota, Im sure its sales will be quite good, id take the Subaru though, but still, if only it looked like the Concept:( a shame.. Quote>"Plot: Don't worry there's some legacy stuff I'm working on. Autoweek participates in various affiliate marketing programs, which means we may get paid commissions on editorially chosen products purchased through our links to retailer sites. The FR-S/BRZ represents the return of the affordable, even practical, sports car. You may be able to find more information about this and similar content at piano.io, Honda's CB650R Brings Back Middleweight Roots, The Handling Is the Star of the 2022 Honda Civic, 2022 Honda Civic Si Remains a Driver's Car, The Suzuki Hayabusa Enters Its Third Generation, Tested: 2022 Audi RS e-tron GT Joins the EV Chase, Tested: Cayenne E-Hybrid Coupe and the Three Vs, The 2022 Nissan Pathfinder: Legends Never Die, Tested: Hyundai Santa Fe Hybrid Moves Upscale, 2021 Acura TLX Type S Remembers Whats Important, 2013 Scion FR-S: Drive Review: An affordable and practical sports car. Pricing will be $24,930 for the manual and $26,030 for the automatic. I don't race my daily driver's for a living so the cars test track #'s mean next to nothing as far as I'm concerned. Exiting the decreasing-radius turns it was again easy to slide but always just as easy to bring back in line. He suffered to some extent, but even though he was six feet tall, he did fit, did not expire from cramping and got out under his own gymnastic power without any help from the Jaws of Life, though those might have helped. The automatic is also programmable, with manual and sport modes that increase responsiveness from the powertrain and a snow mode for decreased response. Both will be offered in monospec, i.e., loaded. Takes credit for THE most FATAL "sports" car in the world, ONLY a few Chinese, Russian, Indian cars, plus the Fiat 500/Panda and CAMI M-cars are BARELY worse. So sedan do this per 9.19.3. But after one session to get the hang of it, we were hanging the tail out all around the course. There is, after all, a huge gap between those who want a sports car and those who want a sporty car. BTW. I managed 131 with my "slushbox" AT on a closed road. The shifts were short, quick and precise every time and we could definitely feel the greater driveline efficiency of the manual. Always assuming the speedo is pretty accurate of course. We would agree with that contention, though the difference is very subtle. I would have put my order in for one Imidietly. If you are reading this magazine, or even just looking at the Web site (sign up for the damned mag, will ya? Not since the debut of the Mazda Miata more than 20 years ago has there been so much buzz about a new entry in the segment. On Spring Mountain's road course, with TRAC and VSC off, we were also hanging the tail out. You do realize comparing the BRZ to the FR-S is like comparing which hand you love masterbating too right? In the dry of Spring Mountain, hammering several different cars all day, we definitely preferred the six-speed manual. Nobody wants to buy rebadged Toyotas. The Scion FR-S and its twin, the Subaru BRZ, are what we have been waiting for for years--an affordable, front-engine, rear-wheel-drive compact car that is nicely balanced, responsive and fun. It's nice too see something different for once. It is affordable and it is fun. I predict it'll outsell the Mazda MX5 Miata. Decrease in sales. On public roads and highways the first thing we noticed was that rough pavement transferred into the cabin more than you'd expect had you been driving a FWD sporty coupe. This might steer away the poseurs, which just means more FR-Ss for true sports-car drivers. It's everything you'd hoped for. They have all the appeal of a radio flyer wagon. .autotribute.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Scion-FRS-angle.jpg, 100-200 9.39 and its estate. Anytime man. But it will remind you of the great sports and sporty cars you had in college, such as the Datsun 510, the Mazda RX-3, the Alfa Giulia and the BMW 2002tii. I wouldnt want an over powered car for the street regardless because most of the time the posted limits dont allow for it. I haven't seen one in person yet, but it seems okay in photographs.
So Scion's future is under the question And I wish Toyota already shut down Scion! How the car drives/ feels from behind the wheel is what's important not its 0-60 time. In the winter, buy a set of snow tires and click on the snow mode. The FR-S is engineered by Subaru and designed by Toyota. 0-60 in 6.2 and 14.8 for the quarter (approx; BRZ / FR-S / MX-5) is plenty quick enough for a fun daily driver. Based on most reports the BRZ / FR-S (basically same car) are well worth the cost. Published figures from sources that must switch on their clocks halfway through the run claim 0 to 60 mph in 6.7 seconds. Second gear got us to 59 mph, so a little more goofing around might have dropped the time quite a bit. Problem was, they were either front-wheel drive or they cost half as much as your house. In 2006 they were selling more than 170,000 vehicles, but last year less than 70,000 units were sold. Still impressive tho. "Altimgamr: The Movie is a movie based Wikipedia sockpuppeteer Altimgamr." This is the car that will revitalize club racing, inspire everyone to enter Formula D and redirect fame and fortune to Toyota's flagging Scion division, all for about $25,000 a pop.
In a straight line, under less than ideal conditions, we managed a 0-to-60-mph time of 8.3 seconds in only a few quick tries--launching at 5,000 rpm, quick clutch engagement, rubber in first and second. Scion kept a layer of water on the surface to make drifting easier for those not schooled in the sport. It is nicely balanced, with 53 percent of its weight on the front wheels, which chief engineer Tetsuya Tada said he preferred to a 50/50 balance. The only choices owners will make are transmission, color and some accessories. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR7jdJ_Nhig"]Quick highway run - YouTube[/ame]. Or you could leave the stock rubber on and go drifting. Scion's only hope on FRS, but everyone is buying BRZ instead. Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain. It's an achievement no doubt. In an earlier drive late last year of the identical-twin BRZ on a wet track in Japan, we really liked the automatic, with its rev-matching downshifts and quick, paddle-operated upshifts. Many say theyre close to the MX-5 Miata in terms of being fun to drive so in that case theres no doubt the BRZ/FR-S are well worth the money. Squeezed 235 kph (approx 146 mph) out of mine but it was on E85 and a long stretch of tarmac and I ran out of it while the speed was still (very) slowly increasing. The front MacPherson strut and rear double wishbones combined with the standard Torsen limit-slip meant that over the track's two big whoop-de-dos you can keep it flat and all that results is a nice, controlled sideways slide, with the back end drifting out a little more than the front. Child seats fit in the back seats, Scion says. That doesn't seem right. Because that's a redundant brand, that makes no sense and goes straight to the fail. (Subaru is bringing in 6,000 in the first 12 months.) Our first drive at Spring Mountain was on an improvised figure-eight drift course, with instruction by no less than Formula D great Ken The Gush Gushi, who drives an FR-S in competition. Unlike my beast which can pass everything except a gas station. In fact, we stayed on the track all afternoon until they finally kicked us off at about 4 p.m. or so, such was the car's sway over us. You're right. With its 25 mpg combined manual and 28 mpg combined automatic you can even say it's economical. People often bring up the Genesis Coupe (are some other merely quicker car) for comparison saying it's a much better deal because it has 274hp and runs a quicker 0-60, etc. I have taken my car to 135. (Smoothness and minimal input is the key.). So, Scion, please, disappear. If I had a race track in my back yard I wouldnt mind having a really powerful car but for the street / public roads its mostly a waste for most of the time. Scion now survives hard period. They may not be all that fast but they are among the most fun / rewarding cars to drive for the money and then some according to reports. Amended. If this looked EXACTLY like the (Concept) This would have blown the sales door Off! We drove it all over Spring Mountain Motorsports Ranch in beautiful, sunny Pahrump, Nev., and never got tired of it. Drives: Toyota GT86, 66 beetle, 11 GSXR 750. The Ferrari 458 too, estimated quicker actually! You can drive it all week then race or drift it all weekend. Scion will bring in 10,000 in the remainder of this year and 20,000 in 2013. The real number, we think, lies somewhere in between. Yes what you say is very true. Those things only matter if you for some reason race your daily driver's for a living. ), you like sports cars, and this is the car for you. Longest straight stretch of road we have around here and i ran out of room haha. Early morning LOL! The top speed is not limited to 125, our gearing can do 170+. The Scion version of the two cars has a softer front end that is supposed to reduce understeer. Though getting to those speeds on stock performance is the hard part. Toyota added the highly efficient D4S direct- and port-fuel injection system that helps broaden the 2.0-liter boxer's power and torque bands. Finally, Scion built a car worth driving and doesn't look like it was designed by 3 year olds. We drove both six-speed manual and six-speed automatic versions of the FR-S.
That's pretty good. Our car experts choose every product we feature. We may earn money from the links on this page. The electric motors change and flux their torque points throughout the 11.2-8.4 l/100 km (21-28 mpg US / 25-34 mpg UK), 4.23 m (167 in) long, 1.78 m (70 in) wide, 1.30 m (51 in) high. My 02 es300 would hit 140 Drag limited, it was heavier, rode higher, and had less horses. Scion has about 1,000 dealers, so you should be able to get a hold of one. I don't As fast as a 997 GT3 RS. There is no need in their production, except FRS, but Toyota simply could export GT86 to the US market. I know Toyota aimed Scions at young buyers, but no self respecting twenty something like me would be caught dead in an XA, XB, or XD. Fold down those seats and the trunk space expands to fit the four racing wheels and tires you will definitely have for track days and drifting. :(. But to answer the question, yes, you want it. Personally I pick the car which is most fun to drive over the one "s" which is merely quicker, have more HP, etc. This is at the lower end of the sports-car spectrum in both power and price. Powertrain: 2.0-liter, 200-hp, 151-lb-ft H4; RWD, six-speed manual, The Lamborghini Aventador Ultimae Bids Farewell, Lucid Air May Be the Most Efficient Electric Car, Bell's Win Complicates NASCAR Cup Playoff Picture, The Ford F-150 Raptor R Brings Back the V8, This content is created and maintained by a third party, and imported onto this page to help users provide their email addresses. Im assuming droping the car with coilovers, adding a spoiler for down-force, and just pushing the engine with a turbo/charger. I saw a gray one, yesterday, these cars look so much more awesome in person. Power peaks at 200 horses at 7,000 rpm, just shy of the 7,400-rpm redline, and torque peaks at 151 ft-lb between 6,400 rpm and 6,600 rpm. Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum, Cosmetic Modification (Interior/Exterior/Lighting), Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB, Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum - FT86CLUB. Inside are nicely bolstered seats, a grippy steering wheel that is just more than 14 inches in diameter and a digital speedometer to keep up with the revs more accurately. People are staking out ports to watch them roll off ships. It's true, you have always been able to buy great sports cars; those never went away. I plan on tracking mine. With its back seat and trunk you can even convince the spouse that it is practical. A lot of folks seem to miss this reality a choose #s above all else regardless. Good catch. How does the frs not go faster? A car with adequate / moderate power can be a lot more fun because you can actually run it through the gears without worry of going to jail for running 30+ over the limit just tapping the throttle briefly. So i was doing some digging around and I found out that the TS of the frs is 125, and its drag limited.
Remember, this is not a Porsche 911/Ferrari 458/Porsche Cayman/BMW Z4 competitor. Later this year there will be TRD options such as exhaust, suspension upgrades and body kits and wheels from Five Axis. The FR-S has the same tires as the Toyota Prius, ironically, a move made for cost and wear considerations. For track days you might want a different set of pads. After a while we detected some brake fade in one of the models we drove, but that might have been a result of overbraking by the previous driver. So a set of grippier aftermarket tires would no doubt increase the amount of power you could put down to the ground.
Either way, at 28k Usd, like the Subie and Toyota, Im sure its sales will be quite good, id take the Subaru though, but still, if only it looked like the Concept:( a shame.. Quote>"Plot: Don't worry there's some legacy stuff I'm working on. Autoweek participates in various affiliate marketing programs, which means we may get paid commissions on editorially chosen products purchased through our links to retailer sites. The FR-S/BRZ represents the return of the affordable, even practical, sports car. You may be able to find more information about this and similar content at piano.io, Honda's CB650R Brings Back Middleweight Roots, The Handling Is the Star of the 2022 Honda Civic, 2022 Honda Civic Si Remains a Driver's Car, The Suzuki Hayabusa Enters Its Third Generation, Tested: 2022 Audi RS e-tron GT Joins the EV Chase, Tested: Cayenne E-Hybrid Coupe and the Three Vs, The 2022 Nissan Pathfinder: Legends Never Die, Tested: Hyundai Santa Fe Hybrid Moves Upscale, 2021 Acura TLX Type S Remembers Whats Important, 2013 Scion FR-S: Drive Review: An affordable and practical sports car. Pricing will be $24,930 for the manual and $26,030 for the automatic. I don't race my daily driver's for a living so the cars test track #'s mean next to nothing as far as I'm concerned. Exiting the decreasing-radius turns it was again easy to slide but always just as easy to bring back in line. He suffered to some extent, but even though he was six feet tall, he did fit, did not expire from cramping and got out under his own gymnastic power without any help from the Jaws of Life, though those might have helped. The automatic is also programmable, with manual and sport modes that increase responsiveness from the powertrain and a snow mode for decreased response. Both will be offered in monospec, i.e., loaded. Takes credit for THE most FATAL "sports" car in the world, ONLY a few Chinese, Russian, Indian cars, plus the Fiat 500/Panda and CAMI M-cars are BARELY worse. So sedan do this per 9.19.3. But after one session to get the hang of it, we were hanging the tail out all around the course. There is, after all, a huge gap between those who want a sports car and those who want a sporty car. BTW. I managed 131 with my "slushbox" AT on a closed road. The shifts were short, quick and precise every time and we could definitely feel the greater driveline efficiency of the manual. Always assuming the speedo is pretty accurate of course. We would agree with that contention, though the difference is very subtle. I would have put my order in for one Imidietly. If you are reading this magazine, or even just looking at the Web site (sign up for the damned mag, will ya? Not since the debut of the Mazda Miata more than 20 years ago has there been so much buzz about a new entry in the segment. On Spring Mountain's road course, with TRAC and VSC off, we were also hanging the tail out. You do realize comparing the BRZ to the FR-S is like comparing which hand you love masterbating too right? In the dry of Spring Mountain, hammering several different cars all day, we definitely preferred the six-speed manual. Nobody wants to buy rebadged Toyotas. The Scion FR-S and its twin, the Subaru BRZ, are what we have been waiting for for years--an affordable, front-engine, rear-wheel-drive compact car that is nicely balanced, responsive and fun. It's nice too see something different for once. It is affordable and it is fun. I predict it'll outsell the Mazda MX5 Miata. Decrease in sales. On public roads and highways the first thing we noticed was that rough pavement transferred into the cabin more than you'd expect had you been driving a FWD sporty coupe. This might steer away the poseurs, which just means more FR-Ss for true sports-car drivers. It's everything you'd hoped for. They have all the appeal of a radio flyer wagon. .autotribute.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Scion-FRS-angle.jpg, 100-200 9.39 and its estate. Anytime man. But it will remind you of the great sports and sporty cars you had in college, such as the Datsun 510, the Mazda RX-3, the Alfa Giulia and the BMW 2002tii. I wouldnt want an over powered car for the street regardless because most of the time the posted limits dont allow for it. I haven't seen one in person yet, but it seems okay in photographs.
So Scion's future is under the question And I wish Toyota already shut down Scion! How the car drives/ feels from behind the wheel is what's important not its 0-60 time. In the winter, buy a set of snow tires and click on the snow mode. The FR-S is engineered by Subaru and designed by Toyota. 0-60 in 6.2 and 14.8 for the quarter (approx; BRZ / FR-S / MX-5) is plenty quick enough for a fun daily driver. Based on most reports the BRZ / FR-S (basically same car) are well worth the cost. Published figures from sources that must switch on their clocks halfway through the run claim 0 to 60 mph in 6.7 seconds. Second gear got us to 59 mph, so a little more goofing around might have dropped the time quite a bit. Problem was, they were either front-wheel drive or they cost half as much as your house. In 2006 they were selling more than 170,000 vehicles, but last year less than 70,000 units were sold. Still impressive tho. "Altimgamr: The Movie is a movie based Wikipedia sockpuppeteer Altimgamr." This is the car that will revitalize club racing, inspire everyone to enter Formula D and redirect fame and fortune to Toyota's flagging Scion division, all for about $25,000 a pop.