Anthony Arthur's book is good but I don't know that you'll get a lot out of it beyond what's in the podcast since Carlin relied on it so heavily.
Please try again. BernardRothmann and his allies take over the political offices of Munster, and Bernhard Knipperdolling (the second Bernard in this story) becomesthe Mayor of Munster after deposing the Lutheran magistrates, who, until then, had seen him as an ally in their own distrust oftheCatholic Church. To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we dont use a simple average. He legalized polygamy and seized private property for the city's defenses. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. Comparing other history podcasts to Hardcore History is impossible: Dan has a voice, an eye for the dramatic and an analytical style that allows for the most information to come across as entertainment while still holding all of the impact (if not more) of a world history course at the college level. This group eventually became known as the Mennonites after Simons. April 4, 1534 (Easter Sunday)Jan Matthys, who had prophesied Gods deliverance on Easter day of 1534, made a sally with only thirty followers, believing that he would single-handedly defeat the Prince-Bishops armies. 1543. Janof Leidenproclaimedhimself to be the successor of David and assumes royal regalia, honors and absolute power in the new Zion and New Jerusalem of Munster. There was like 3 pages on it in Diarmid McCulloch's Reformation and I found Van Leiden in some old trashy anthology of prophets, frauds and madmen. Arthur's attempts to draw explicit parallels with recent events and the Freudian framework within which he draws them are detractions, but they are restricted almost entirely to the final chapter.
You need to enable JavaScript to use SoundCloud. Also, Gresbeck wrote his book within a couple years after everything happened in Mnster, so there's a little more clarity in some of his stories. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. Mnster officially becomes a Lutheran city. Heard the story told through one of my favorite podcasts - had to get one of the books he's cited as source. This is special. Beware those who say they have all the answers. My favorite HH episode. Great account of what happened during the Anabaptist uprising in Munster. Listen to it on the flight over to Germany and see it for yourself. What is the Charlie Charlie Challenge? Outstanding. In a period of unprecedented religious upheaval in Europe, the Anabaptists were persecuted mercilessly by both Catholic and Lutheran authorities. And the whole bit about why Martin Luther was so angry the indulgences, the wealth of the church, the hypocrisy of the popes etc. Your current browser isn't compatible with SoundCloud. , Hardcover Forensically written and researched . Full content visible, double tap to read brief content. Overall, worth the read if you are a history buff. Matthys identified Mnster as the "New Jerusalem", and on January 5, 1534, a number of his disciples entered the city and introduced adult baptism. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. Joris proposed compromise by declaring the time had not yet come to fight against the authorities, and that it would be unwise to kill any non-Anabaptists. IN A WORD - EXCELLENT!! John of Leiden and Gerrit Boekbinder[1] had visited Mnster, and returned with a report that Bernhard Rothmann was in Mnster teaching doctrines similar to their own. If you want to learn more, check out this book! Bring your club to Amazon Book Clubs, start a new book club and invite your friends to join, or find a club thats right for you for free. Amazing story, who knew that things could get so out of control!?! A story from the middle ages with parallels to modern conflict and despotic rulers. If you're a seller, Fulfillment by Amazon can help you grow your business. A must read for anyone interested in the Anabaptist uprising, but it would also be of real fascination to readers who are interested in the dark and desperate recesses of human nature. Historical events explained in a gripping easily digestible narrative. (LogOut/ Well done Dan! It never again had the opportunity of assuming political importance, as both Catholic and Lutheran civil powers adopted stringent measures to counter this. All rights reserved. Dan seems to be unsatisfied with this one for reasons that i cannot understand. I feel like the story reads a bit clumsy, and could use some fine-tuning to smooth out the read. Press J to jump to the feed. Reviewed in the United States on May 13, 2017. Everyone should listen to it. 1532 Melchior Hoffman, assuming the office of prophet, declares Christ will return to Strasbourgin 1533to establish the one thousand year reign of Christ. It really takes something special to make me look forward to my awful commute to and from work. Rothmann and his rabid followers pillaged Catholic churches, intimidated ``nonbelievers,'' and passed legislation curbing Catholicism. Janof Leiden married the beautiful widow of Matthys to signify the continuity of prophetic office. Led by the 24-year-old Jan van Leyden, a charismatic tailor's apprentice from Holland, the revolt quickly jettisoned its promise of a community united by voluntary faith, becoming instead a textbook study in extremism. Ive been a fan of Dan for a while. Learn more about the program. The meeting included followers of Batenburg, survivors of Mnster, David Joris and his sympathisers, and the nonresistant Anabaptists. There are only a few that are downloadable for free at this point. (LogOut/ Dark and interesting. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Community of goods(religious communism) was also established. Every episode is amazing but this one is just perfect. This episode in particular creates such a lifelike retelling of the city of Mnster and its situation at the time, that one quickly becomes entrapped in it. The connection between this historical time and the splinter sects that is .0001% of Muslims in the world is important. Dan has a focus on the human experience that makes your stomach turn as you put yourself in the shoes of our ancestors. I loved this episode. The Anabaptist seizure of Muenster was nearly complete by the time the Catholic bishop decided to expel the foreign ``heretics.'' I learned a lot from this book, but also enjoyed Arthur's uncluttered narrative style, withholding most of his personal speculations until the last part of the book. German Men Sit Down to Pee and Other Insights into German Culture. They rejected any use of violence and preached a faith based on compassion and love of enemy. I am in no way familiar with Dan Carlin, never heard of him, never listened to him, until two days ago. RADICAL REFORMATION HISTORY - ANABAPTIST FANATICISM 1535, Reviewed in the United States on March 27, 2018. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on February 9, 2017. Its elements include the heroism, intrigue, greed, sex, and violence of a late-twentieth-century blockbuster novel, and Arthur's timing in presenting his account neatly coincides with the current bull market for apocalypticism, aka millenarianism. The other main primary source that isn't in the podcast is by Henry Gresbeck, another eyewitness. 
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Publish Date:Mon, 22 Apr 2013 Because of Dan, Mnster is high on my list of places to visit before I die. I love all the Hardcore History podcasts but this one takes the cake. Please download one of our supported browsers. Bonkers story out of one of my favorite eras, the storytelling unfolds wonderfully he really takes the time to wring every drop from this crazy story, I love it! It was surreal that there was a time in history when such things happened.
You can leave a comment by clicking here. Articles: Im happy I havent finished this episode yet, and Im happy that there are so many more episodes to go. How could Waco, Oklahoma City, and Kosovo have happened? It just wasn't very helpful. Murderous millennial preachers and prophets take over the German city of Munster after Martin Luther unleashes a Pandoras Box of religious anarchy with the Protestant Reformation. I want to thank you so much for this episode, it is so relevant in this time. 
It all has happened before, with ghastly results. 1.For the Honor of God and to Fulfill His Will: The Role of Polygamy in Anabaptist Munster by Darren T. Williamson Thanks, Dan for the incredible story and suppressing my road rage for a few days. So there it is. BBC Radio 4. There were many people involved in this complex event, which makes the story intrinsically difficult to tell; however, the author could make use of footnotes where some of the more minor details interrupt the flow of the story. This is by far the most disturbing episode that Ive listened to so far absolutely brilliant, but unsettling and graphic. His analysis in the final chapter is a masterly comparison of the events in M?nster to what happened to the Branch Davidians in Waco, TX. For other rebellions, see, 16th-century political rebellion in Germany, Learn how and when to remove this template message, "Chapter 6: The Melchoirites and Mnster", Communism in Central Europe in the Time of the Reformation, "Der wedderdoeper eidt" / oath of the Mnster Anabaptists, "German Zion: The Anabaptist Rebellion at Munster". Events that have transpired centuries ago come to life in his retellings and so do the historical figures, their ambitions and emotions. The Anglo-Saxon Kingdom of Wessex showed that it could thrive even under the pressure of other, much stronger forces. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on October 13, 2021, Reviewed in the United Kingdom on July 6, 2014. The pope and Martin Luther, otherwise sworn enemies, united in condemning the Anabaptists for believing that ``infant baptism is meaningless'' and only adult baptism brings salvation. That belief was disastrous, and led to the city turning into an ISIS like cultism that saw many of the inhabitants slaughtered by either the hands of the militant fanatic Anabaptist or the armies besieging the city. Arthur breaks down a complex ( well for me anyway ) historical episode and its main characters into a very easily read tale. What about an entire section in India, where women and children are forced into the sex trade.. where is our humanity? I dont like history that much. Three Ordinary Girls: The Remarkable Story of Three Dutch Teenagers Who Became Spie Germania: A Captivating Guide to the History of a Region in Europe Where Germanic T Prussia: A Captivating Guide to the History of Prussia and Franco-Prussian War (Fas Wessex: A Captivating Guide to an Anglo-Saxon Kingdom of England and Its Rulers Suc Leopard Tanks in Action: History, Variants and Combat Operations of the German Leop Iron Spy: The True Story of the Greatest Double Agent in World War II, Auschwitz #34207: The Joe Rubinstein Story. The one I wanted to direct my readers toward is his 4 hour overview of the Munster rebellion in 1534-1535. Bernard Rothmann, a brilliant Anabaptist theologian, began the Menster takeover by asserting control over the city council. The last couple of chapters were really not helpful as the author tried to psychoanalyze things and compare it especially with the Nazis.