church of christ vs pentecostal


I am very for giving guidelines. Pentecostals believe that when you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is Lord and that the Father raised Him from the dead youre saved. I was raised in a Baptisit. They were not being doled out like candy at a child's birthday party every time someone had a cough or a migraine. we believe in only One God. Jeff:11/30/2012, has it exactly right. The Baptists think that contemporary music is wrong and Baptist women dress very modestly. Eve sinned, Adam was to contact God and help Eve repent. I was raised in the Baptist faith all my life. Well its been broke for a long time with the rulers of the darkness of this world have set up all these phony teachers andbleachers teaching for filthy lucre read john14:1-7 john10:30 1 John:5:20-21 if any man love not the LORD JESUS CHRIST let him be accused!!! Same goes for revelations or prophecies. John Wimber of the Vineyard movement stated: "There's nothing in Scripture that supports these kinds of phenomena that I can see, and I can't think of anything throughout the church age that would. Modern Pentecost & Happy-Baptist are nothing like this. Be careful when misrepresenting a brother or sister in Christ. Oh but it is in the Bible! "For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day" (Acts 2:15). Irenaeus (130 -202) was student of Polycarp, who in turn was disciple of apostle John. Saying that Trinitarian Christians believe in 3 gods only shows your lack of knowledge about the Holy Trinity. The Bible is full of Blessings! These three folks were very self ish-centered-oriented, (I think in the flesh means that same thing ). very well said Jeff 11/30/2012! I will agree we still stick to the hymns in the Southern Gospil way, but still the old time hymns, and we are more quiet with praise and worship and prayers. His miracles were the evidence that He was speaking the truth. No person will EVER be capable of judging another and of the multiple apostolic Pentecostal preachers I have heard preach the word only a month shy of 40 years, not ONE has ever mentioned ANY person being condemned to before. There are solid, grounded, immersed in the word Pentecostals out there. Pentecostals don't understand the purpose of miracles and this lack of understanding leads to confusion and frustration. He is antichrist that denith the Father and Son. John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. You cannot strictly follow the teaching of the New Testament and end up being in a denomination because they all are creations of men. Before then everyone wore a dress like robe or garment including Jesus himself. If you are baptized and still live the same life of sin and dont try to change anything, then you never truly gave your life to God. The point I am trying to make is that I am no stranger to Pentecostalism, its doctrines, its worship and its experiences. We believe in a God that is three person, but one in being. So even though they deny it, Pentecostals openly disregard the Scriptures and appeal to feelings or experience as their ultimate source of truth. Pentecostalism fails to understand the context of I Corinthians 14. Yet, the Pentecostal Holiness claim a person is justified by faith alone? I love the Lord and I love all that goes with it. Im not sure what Bible youre reading but no where in my Bible does it say that you have to take turns speaking in tongues made it take turn speaking in tongues on the day of Pentecost so why should we now. it is for our safety. I once thought he put us as beneath men I since realized that is far from the truth so thats all I need to know is that Im important to God and hes important to me not whether men or women were or more important than the other one I know God loves me and pants short hair long hair dress its our hearts it matter whats in them. Baptist churches are teaching a phony trinity Lie! However, when tongues/languages were spoken, there was to be a proper order to their functioning. How is it then, brethren? Salvation is permanent in Christ Jesus He does not lie when He says thy Holy Spirits ministry is to seal us to Jesus Christ amen. We are not to remain as babes, but we are commanded to mature spiritually. But due to the influx of various denominations through the Charismatic movement, Pentecostals have now adopted the more common or popular style. However, that doesnt mean woman cant teach or give testimony of how God has worked in their life it just means God has given the authority to pastor people through men. Especially indian pentecostals who believe in speaking in tongues! he is the alpha and omega after all. The worship service is about the same. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. Actually, my mother is a pastor and we are Pentecostal. But the word of God says, Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of Gods one and only Son. [JOHN 3:18]. Prov 3:57 Blessed is he shooteth first and asketh questions last. if you want to know all about our church, you can leave a reply here so that i can give you the website , They are not talents Baptists see that as an erroneous belief. Pray for me.. Thats why they say come as you are. The serious student of Scripture will find that miracles did not happen all the time throughout the ages. You nailed it. Actually, I know of 2 versions of Baptists who believe Christians can lose their salvation Freewill Baptists and the Baptist Union of Denmark. 1 Corinthians 14:27-28ESV / of this verse then you are convince and agreesthen after a month they will say again that you are not fully saved bec. Read John 14:1-7 John 10:30 1 John 5:20-21 kjv and learn the Truth! Notice what Paul said in I Corinthians 14:34, "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.". Methodist allow women to preach. During this time a lot of people were prayed for, prophesied over, claimed to see visions and angels, laid in the floor, spoke in "tongues", shook, vibrated, laughed, cried, wailed, made animal sounds and of course claimed to be healed. But after all of this, it wasn't God that we saw, it was man. It really all depends on the church you go to or visit. Im just saying. During my 50 plus years as a Pentecostal, I had been involved in countless Pentecostal and charismatic influences. The next few scriptures talk about that it is for everyone after that day as well. She said to me, "You know Bro. Some verses seemed to hold great authority while others were insignificant. The obvious answer to these questions is in the negative.

Trinity. We must be willing to earnestly contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints (Jude 3). Notice what Paul says; "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints" (I Corinthians 14:33). JESUS IS A GIFT. However, I will attack the lies and heresies of men. I believe this is wrong because If we believe this then why do we have church discipline we have to hold each other accountable for our actions Matthew 18:15-17 If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. You beleive speaking in tongues is evidence of the holy spirit but i beleive its a learned skill. Just come as you are. And honestly,I am a Pentecostal and there are no women pastors. So you are saying Jesus mis-spoke, made a mistake or lied. Only the spiritually weak need all these extra crutches. When Paul begins to enumerate the gifts, he starts by saying, "to one is given" (I Corinthians 12:8) in order to indicate that not everyone would have that respective gift. Acts 19:1-6 explains this.This author is not educated in the Pentecostal doctrine of Trinitarian believers. Unlike Baptists, Pentecostals allow woman to become pastors. thx for letting me share that w/you. Jesus challenged the unbelieving Jews to examine His miracles when He said, "But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me" (John 5:36). Pentecostals have always baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Hello, Pentecostals themselves admit its beginnings were in America around the turn of the 20th century. The flesh profited nothing. I am a baptist because that is how I was raised. All scriptures are written under the inspiration God and God knew pants were going to be invented as a mans clothing, I agree lets be realistically correct pants cause a lot of problems. Let all things be done unto edifying. The three person distinct yet there is only one God. We can see that clearly in the book of Genesis when God took a rib out of Adams body and created Eve to be a companion to Adam. I do follow Gods word and I do exactly what to do and not to, of course were not perfect but were Christians and as Christians we do our very best to be followers of Christ (Christian) so I am not Jesus but I sure can do my best to be like Him. children of the devil join forces against us. John 14:1-7 John 10:30 1 John:20-21 kjv. No matter what church you attend or what label you put on. What this article focuses on is the apostolic branch of the Pentecostal movement. Since I started in church (around 1980 I am 36), women have always been fashionable.

The problem with the so called churches these days is the anything goes attitude thing and the preaching of the gospel of convenience and not the gospel of Jesus. you know a talent is a weight to measure with My Pentecostal church will allow children to get baptized as long as they want to and their parents allow it regardless of their mindset. Im use to a small church.i am just overwhelm with all that I just read. its all about me about what I want. The Trinity is strictly monotheistic. On the contrary, Baptists believe that a person is saved once he or she repents and prays. Well I call it the same phony Lie trinity as the Catholic church teaches have you never read john14:1-7 john10:30 1 John:5:20-21 he is antichrist that denith the Father and Son. I havent been in a church for a long time. When we did not have any special speakers, my wife and I conducted the meetings ourselves. Since I tend to pray to God, and not a person, I dont need to pray loud. Even though I was exposed to and had learned many incorrect methods and views of Bible interpretation (hermeneutics), I did know, believe and understand that the Bible is the word of God and we needed to read it and follow it. He did not come to excite, stimulate or cause anyone to flail, thrash or whirl about uncontrollably. Only those that are securely grounded are able to still believe when things are dark. He was the first church father to identify the four canonical gospels. 4 & 5) Both Baptist and Pentecostal believe that once you accept Christ as your savior your name is written in the book of life and you are saved therefore there is no need to be saved again. I know the Baptists believe this too I just see it more at COGIC. As long as they are not provocative or revealing, I personally believe it is ok. What is worse, normal, non-provocative jeans, or a short, tight, revealing dress? (Hell). I can't tell you how many hours we spent in prayer or the number of meals we fasted, all because we wanted nothing more than God. The rulers of the darkness of this world have set up phony teachers and phony preachers in all the churches didnt the apostle Paul tell you that wolves would come in not sparing the flock better read the kjv bible john14:1-7 john10:30 1 John:5:20-21 and seek out your own salvation with fear and trembling! I have never seen this in a traditional Pentecostal church. John14:1-7 john10:30 1 John:5:20-21 and the true gospel 1 Corinthians 15:1-5 kjv, Not all Pentecost believe in woman pastor I dont it goes against the order of God also there is three kinds of Pentecost the ones who believe in the trinity the ones that only believe in The father God and the Holy Spirit and there is also the carasmatic movement I believe in trinity and all the gift of the spirit as long as it does not go against the scriptures it very important that you keep the Bible the main attrorety because it is now of day people take thing out of context and are plain old ignorant. the holy spirit comes in and transformers us thats why its so important for people to understand the meaning of baptisms its about time we get it together as believers and unbelievers how can we say that a woman should not wear pants the Bible specifically said a woman should not wear a mans garment what about the winter time should a woman wear short skirts in the snow God has the power to judge what about the man that dresses up like a woman should we say then the woman thats dressing like a man do we judge them and put them down and close our eyes and pretend like we dont see them the Bible tells us that we must not hate the person but hate the sin inside of them its important for us to read the word of God and stay in communion with the Lord Cause only him Can give us guidance .

When I say five months, I mean we didn't miss a service unless we were having a service at our church. Weve never actually had a woman pastor preach at our church. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Not God. There is nothing any place in the New Testament that suggests women can serve in the eldership or leadership of the church. I planned on going to one tomorrow. Obviously, both cannot be inspired by the Holy Spirit. So if all women wear skirts and dresses then how can men learn self control and integrity? Its His Gospel that will matter in the end. From what I can remember it doesnt mention woman priests teaching or spreading Gods word. For the past couple of years I have been going to a COGIC and recently became a member of one last month. I paused for a moment and said, "It probably means what it says." The idea in Pentecostal worship was that the more people there were speaking in tongues at the same time, the more spiritual your church was the greater the moving of the Spirit. People who get saved, then turn their back on God and choose to follow Satan again are sadly not going to make it in. I was taught love, Jesus, God at both and thats what matters to me. Swimsuits in the early 1900 where very ugly. In time, my wife and I eventually ended up in the Assemblies of God where I was a licensed preacher for 27 years. Just like their phony trinity Lie! I know many! Because women are the weaker vessel and God made them that way and men to lead and bear the burdens! It commemorates the anniversary of the day God gave the Torah to the entire nation of Israel assembled at Mount Sinai. But for Pentecostals, it is not like that and a person should have to lead a sinless life even after one is saved. And, how is it that the Holy Spirit inspired James to say "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only" (James 2:24)? That is the reason I only will go to Baptist churches. Well the trinity is a big Lie! 6He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. Please study up before you throw false information out there, I dont know what Pentecostal Churches all you go to, but the one I go to doesnt require dresses, there are women preachers, we watch tv, we listen to some worldly music(not too much tho), and you can be saved with out the holy spirit, Dear Brother and Sister. Women are being tempted as well! They believed you were to come down to the altar and "pray through" to salvation.

The Baptist Church would say that if you turn away from Jesus and renounce (my correction) your faith, you were probably never Saved in the first place. They are no longer needed.

You may ask, then where do Pentecostals get this idea from? You are very blessed and May God continue his work in you right here on this earth, I listen to what you have to say but youre telling people to read the Bible are you in the King James Bible cuz I dont know what youre saying makes no sense because it says test test the spirit and see if it is of God we will be judged according to what the word of God in the King James says and that whole Bible if you really get ahold of it says without Holiness no man shall see God all these new versions are lies and can be proven that they are lies King James is the only truth and King James is the only Bible that I believe tells the truth of what God wants us to hear he says not to take from it or add to it as for the clothing nobody told me how to dress when I got genuinely saved really saved it wasnt a once saved always saved do what you want religion it was God changed me I went home I took my makeup off because I looked in the mirror and I said oh this looks horrible and then I put a long dress on so that nobody could see me but my God the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacoband Im sorry but you seem a little angry about the way people believe but we will be judged according to what that book says on how to live how to act how to love our brothers and sisters it says not to be conformed to the world but ve separate and be perfect as I am. I went to a Baptist church for 17 years and I can say many of these points are untrue. Lots wrong with this article, but the comments have been just great! Without fail, all of these preachers become wealthy by the donations of their followers and consequently receive quality medical care from the best doctors! You can only end up a Christian. Then one night something happened that caused me to completely change course. Then, the faith and salvation is not genuine or true. Of course it is not! In any case will both churches have someone preach off a book that is not the bible, both believe in the same Holy Trinity that is the Father (Jehova), the Son (Jesus Christ) and the Holy Spirit. Even in the days of Moses, the miracles that were performed confirmed what the prophet said as well as God's purpose for the Israelite nation. Its crazy how many can talk down about religions, it makes many folks deter from choosing a way, sticking to instinct and believing in a higher power. I am Assembly of God and we are 110% Pentecostal. In the past I had always read over these words, mentally dismissing them on the basis of what I had heard or been taught. A short time after this five month period at Brownsville, we too started holding similar services at our church. Acts 2:1-4 KJV. They believe it to be something mysterious and non-understandable. I asked my pastor, a Baptist, if it was OK if I wore a skirt to church, as I have a skin condition that the seams on pants irritate the skin on my legs and make them raw and bleed.

Benny Hinn and many other TV evengelists earning over $700,000 a year. The point is this: these groups were clearly started by men in America during the early part of the twentieth century. "But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy" (Acts 2:16-18). 90% of Pentecostals do not believe in one thing you said. You all may be correct, but what if the woman doesnt own a dress, or skirt. That is a lie. Her mother was also a pastor. if we are looking at the minimum to do we are missing the point as Christians. Logic demands that if you teach divine healing is for today, then it must of necessity take place. I see GOD as having a reason for dismissing the rich young ruler without awarding him salvation. In almost any American congregation, we can find someone like him sitting there religiously. As a matter of fact, I was a Pentecostal before there was anyone known as a "charismatic.". But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" (I Timothy 2:11-12). But notice the official doctrinal statement of the Assemblies of God: "Divine healing is an integral part of the gospel. What a contentious article and the information is tainted. Since they could not justify what was taking place in those meetings by the Scripture, they felt this statement gave the phenomena approval. Pentacostals do not believe someone has to remain sinless after they are saved. [Vinson Synan, "The Origins of the Pentecostal Movement", Empowered21]. I it doesnt necessarily have to be a specific length As I sat there, my mind began to reflect on the book of Acts and how that no one in the early church ever referred to themselves as a Pentecostal and how that no one was ever called a Pentecostal. Cant bless if there isnt Obedience 95% of the Churches fail the family. This author is completely wrong. Thats thst make the bible unnecessary. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever. They do not follow biblical rules in appointing pastors, deacons etc as outlined in book of Timothy. It is just salvation is by Jesus Christ sacrifices and not ours to boast (Eph 2:8-9). Do you know him john14:1-7 john10:30 1 John:5::20-21! Amen. I was in Pentecostalism over 50 years of my life. Notice what the Bible shows when Peter and John stood before the council: "If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole; Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. However, at the same time, OSAS certainly doesnt give a Christian a license to sin without remorse. We spend more time beating each other up rather than joining forces with each other for the kingdom of God snakes. In the days of Christ, miracles confirmed His ministry and Messiah-ship. a long time ago women didnt wear pants.

Better read the kjv bible because the Baptist church is teaching a phony trinity Lie! We definitely believe in speaking in tongues, but the clothing for women thing is outdated. And you sing only slow hymnals & no dancing or up-beat music, even Christian music. Not all requirements are the same, it depends on the church. This is where the famed "Toronto Blessing" took place. Everything is done through the power of prayer. During the Toronto and Brownsville revivals, it was not uncommon to hear many of the leaders and teachers make the declaration, "God will offend your mind in order to reveal your heart." If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church.