You must log in or register to reply here. All I can say is give them a listen at home side by side with other speakers you are considering (just return the speaker that loses, most stores will let you). I was still blown away by the sound. The 04s provide plenty of deep, accurate HT bass. 2008-02-13T15:47:17-05:00QuarkXPress(tm) 6.52012-01-27T11:38:57-05:00 application/pdfDefinitive Technology Prosub1000 Quick Specs Definitive Technology Prosub1000 Quick Specs Definitive Technology Prosub1000 Quick Specs Percy's of Worcester MA
The bases provide a wide range of staging for abnormal settings like an apartment. It is truly dynamic, with one of the largest soundstages I have come across. Using my Yamaha RX-V1300 receiver with the ProLogic II Music and a Harman Kardon FL8380 HDCD player and a Monster Cable Digital Coax I started off by listening to Josh Groban because his voice is beautiful and deep this would be a serious test of the low octaves that the Pro200 could do well. You can even put them on the floor and angle them up, though it looks odd because of their size. I would recomend these speakers to anyone looking for a bookshelp speaker with a lot of kick, especially if they can find them for the price I paid for them. The design engineers didn't stop there, though, and included larger-than-average, 4.5-inch midrange drivers and annealed, aluminum-dome tweeters. Definitive sounds I have a few questions to you gents out there. 40 Hz? And music bass didnt seem as tight as the dual seven-inch woofers in my ADS 1090s. endobj I disagree. But my Dad's a recording engineer, so I've been exposed to lots of high end stuff in this lifetime. I was strongly considering the JBL S38s, but was essentially auditioning anything I could find in a bookshelf sized unit that had great full spectrum sound. I heard the 100's in the store on the "Gladiator" and the "Matrix" bank scene and I was awestruck. We tried that method first but felt that the sub/sat blend wasn't that good. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I can't wait to get a sub to complete the my system. QuarkXPress(tm) 6.5; modified using iTextSharp 5.1.3 (c) 1T3XT BVBADefinitive Technology Prosub1000 Quick Specs Superb sound Since I didnt want a freestanding subwoofer, I sound shopped for powered towers only. Having heard the Deftech Bi-Polar Big Brothers at Myer-Emco (A BP200x 5.1 set up) and swooned, I went back to check out what their little brothers could accomplish.Unfortunately, all they had on display to audition was a pair of 100s with the matching center and ProSub 100TL. Vocals are dead center front and drums seem behind the wall. Well gentlemen, thanks to your reviews and my own audition of course, I am eagerly awaiting my shipment of 4 Pro Monitor 200's, a huge but inexpensive upgrade to the PF 15TL Subwoofer (499) with 500 watt amp, and a YamahaRX-V800 Dolby Digital/DTS Receiver. Actually, we had to remind ourselves that we were enjoying the company's speaker system, as the powerful but surprisingly compact subwoofer and sats produce the sort of sound that we associate with larger and more expensive systems. The pint-sized sub features a 250-watt, high-current Mosfet power amplifier and an 8-inch polypropylene woofer and stands on adjustable (leveling) feet. The ProMonitors have a very clear and natural sound that doesn't pump up the treble like my prior JBL,Genesis or Bose speakers. Thanks to an extrapotent subwoofer, the ProCinema 80 System can kick out the home-theater jams. In the store, there was no question that the 100s needed the low end that the ProSub provides. However, the 04s that I listened to at Marvins sounded more open and airy. It even matches a hi-end sub like the Def-Tech PF15TL+ and a quality powered center for excellent integration.Please note that dealers are not too likely to carry them in stock or demo them either. The next phase consisted of aquiring left and right mains.I had to compromise somewhat on the mains since I also recently purchased a new 53" widescreen HDTV [Pioneer] and a progressive scan, DVD audio capable player [Panasonic RP91K].I listened to the PM100 and thought that they sounded pretty good. I just can't afford it (yet!). Tall, slender cabinets with easy to clean sock and caps. Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide. I hear Tools drum cymbals more distinctly and Miles Davis trumpet is clearer, cleaner, and more intimate than on my soft dome ADS 1090s. and these speakers did a better job than any other speakers for the money I have tried. I decided to buy a pair for the surrounds. I cannot imagine why a listener would want more bass than the 04s can deliver in music listening, with the possible exception of rap and/or electronic dance fans. 2022 CNET, a Red Ventures company. What this all adds up to is a system that's oriented a bit more toward home theater than music. The reason for purchasing another one is quite simple, I wanted to have a seamless sound across the front soundstage, and i wanted high powerhandling and especially full range frequency response. The soundstage seemed to extend from sidewall to sidewall to the ceiling.
Which is pretty remarkable, given these speakers' accuracy through the mid to high frequencies.OK, I've raved on long enough. These are obviously the best speakers I have heard under $500. Sting, Norah, Maynard, Sadewhoever; they all sound great. I got turned on to these little guys by reviewing this site. 2 0 obj It's what's inside that counts Simply an amazing speaker and a reliable company. [Did it ever]! In the end, the 04s in HT simply ROCK in their current set-up playing 70% HT to 30% stereo, although music listening will probably increase as my kids age. They have very good imaging, an open sound which is not brash, and limit bass as they should (because of drivers and enclosure) to about 60hz (my guess). I had a Bose Lifestyle Series II system for a day and returned it the next. Delivers wide soundstage with excellent imaging The 100s were not dynamic or mighty enough. Yes, some of the excitement could be traced to the way the compact ProSub 80 sub shook our large listening room like a grown-up subwoofer, flexing its muscles to great effect on the Saving Private Ryan DVD. To make a long story short: The DefTech ProMonitor 200 is a phenomenal speaker, especially in this price range, and an absolute steal at the price I paid!P.S. And the little sats didn't turn nasty or hard, even when we upped the volume to raucous levels. The NHTs, however, cost three times more than the 04s. The ProCinema 80 is not bad as a purveyor of tunes, but it's more at home with theater duty. Ex-movie theater projectionist Steve Guttenberg has also worked as a high-end audio salesman, and as a record producer. ADS 1090 The S38s were at the top of the list in spite of their rather massive size for a "bookshelf" (tongue firmly in cheek) speaker. If you want, you can go with the standard cabling regimen--hooking up all of the sats directly to the receiver, then running the sub from the receiver's subwoofer output via a long interconnect cable. I am back and i recently purchased another ProMonitor 200 for use as a center channel. Don't even waste your time with Bose, there is absolutely no comparison whatsoever. endobj The Grateful Dead's Workingman's Dead sounded pretty fine overall, but the acoustic guitars weren't as airy and open as they should have been, though we admit that Garcia's vocals sounded wonderfully present and natural. Purchased as part of a packageProMonitor 200 - frontProCenter C2 - centerProSub 200TL - subwooferBP 2X - surroundI'm very pleased with this package. What is the "proper" way to break in the speakers? I solved the problem by dialing back the bass level on the 04s to eight oclock for music, with HT at ten to eleven oclock. Exceptional build quality; impressive home-theater sound; compact, 250-watt subwoofer; all-metal speaker-binding posts. I dedided to give Def-Tech a try based on excellent reviews and good word of mouth recommendations from some friends.I first purchased a Def-Tech PF15TL+ sub and C/L/R 2300 powered center to give my audio a major boost after listening to them at Audio Video Now. I strongly recommend the 200s especially for the front mains. If you want high end without paying thousands of dollars, definitive is the way to go. This is my very first home theatre system so I'm pretty stoked. I have a few friends (total-destruction-of-home-interior bass fiends) that suggest my HT setup would benefit from an additional, dedicated subwoofer. Accurate vocals! The mids were definitely there. I connected the 100s temporarily in the front crossed over to the Def-Tech PF15TL 500w sub until the 200s arrived. carreview.com | Incredible bass response for such small woofers. I suspect that spending more money on the front mains will produce diminishing returns. <>stream Music bass, on the other hand, is merely great. So I'm not suffering greatly living without the sub in the short term. I knew that they were more than adequate for surrounds though.I picked up the 200s and they took the place of the 100s in the front crossed over to the PF15TL. <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC]/ExtGState<>>>/Type/Page>> Will play very, very loud with quality amplification, Placement challenges in some rooms I got the sense that the sub module was not coming into play anymore. Bass is great (music) to exceptional (HT), but please keep in mind that Im not a bass freak. True, the sub packs a mighty wallop, but it had a tendency to sound boomy and thick when pushed to high output levels. Other Web Sites in the ConsumerReview Network: mtbr.com | Available in black or white finishes, the six-piece ProCinema 80 doesn't look all that different from other compact systems but is in fact built to a higher standard. for only $10.00 more than the 100s listed for.I think what inpresses me most about the speakers was how LIVE they sound. photographyreview.com So I threw on a couple of movies like Saving Private Ryan to test the 200s with my new center [C/L/R 2300]. Great value I got them for $350, which is a much better price than many people on this page got them for. The same friends that suggested a sub for HT cant get enough of the 04s in music.
And while the Low-end is thin on these 200s (sadly, I have yet to scrape enough change together for the ProSub, which the 200s still need regardless of their larger size), I actually give the DefTech claimed 28hz rating more credence than I thought possible. So we read the owner's manual and discovered that Definitive recommends driving the sub from the receiver's left/right speaker outputs, hooking up the left/right speakers to the sub, and connecting the other sats directly to the receiver. All rights reserved. The second thing I noticed was that I was now getting full range sound. These little speakers kick butt!!! The 04s won easily against all but the NHTs. The truest test i always and will always be The General's Daughter HDCD this is the most underated soundtrack I have heard. %PDF-1.6 The sound is simply awesome. Badabing! Looks. Unfortunately, the dealer did not have the 200s for demo or in stock. Listened to AR, NHT, Polk, Klipsch, Infinity and others. These speakers sound great. Big full accurate sound in a little package; Remarkable value for the dollar, Will expose any weaknesses in poorly mastered recordings. Next I put on Elton John's and Tim Rice's AIDA and wow what timbre matching the voices sound exactly the same no matter which channel they came from be it Left,Center, or Right speakers. audioreview.com and the ConsumerReview Network are business units of Invenda Corporation. JACK AND THE BEANSTALK - 70th Anniversary Restoration! I can't believe these things. We next focused on DVD-Audio discs for our music tests. The company also provides versatile wall-mount options. | audioreview.com. Stands are free but do they have to be so flimsy? Fair condition gear should function but will show noticeable cosmetic damage or other issues.
speakers work fine fully functional just show normal wear see pics. sound quality, imaging, gold binding posts. Placement is easy, and they like corners. (I ordered the ProStand 200's) Can you place the adjusting swivel stand that comes with it on top of a floor stand securely? That's great, but the posts are so deeply recessed in the speakers' rear ends that it's almost impossible to use the first two options. You'll find these very same drivers in Def Tech's flagship tower speakers. <>stream
5 Stars. The ProCinema 80, which carries a price tag of $1,049 (list), is a serious contender for home-theater-oriented buyers. High Sensitivity. Within the next year I plan on pairing my Pro 200's with either a MK V-75 MKII or a Klipsch KSW 12. Speaker placement is far more critical than DefTech indicates. I have used these speakers for 4 months now and absolutly love them. What a surprise, the 200s made a sweet combination with the the 2300 as well. Needs high-end eletronics to really shine. The 200 Monitors will startle you. Great looking
5 0 obj I've never encountered these qualities to such an extent in a small speaker. HT bass (I use the LFE hook-up) is fantastic: Full but not overwhelming. That restricted my search to DefTech, Klipsch, AR, NHT, Polk and Infinity, plus a few others. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. After watching just one DVD, we thought that we'd pretty much sized up the Definitive Technology ProCinema 80 System's abilities. Watch this gear and we'll notify you if it becomes available again. Steve currently reviews audio products for CNET and works as a freelance writer for Stereophile. the only down side is the stands that can't hold the speaker straight, Luckily they can be removed very easily, so that is not a big problem.
I can not sit still as I try to patiently wait day by day for my order to arrive. they have a great natural sound, excellent imaging, and work great for music or HT. Those of you that can remember the really small Brauns of the early 70s or the Linnaems of the early 80s might remember the surprise of the great sound from the small box. It seemed to me the 04s pump out bass frequencies that shouldnt be there. Absolutely amazing sound, high quality, easily placed, low price.
I'll post a follow up review once I get it up and running. Break-in took a long time, but worth it!
H|W8}WmA[MQ$dbDLKG|"%["YUg{~YVbx?xL*Hi(E)KEQQ0EA:.8:L, Definitive Technology Prosub1000 Quick Specs. 1 0 obj What kind of stands do you have them on? Close inspection revealed that the sats' cabinets are molded PolyStone--a special, high-density material made by Def Tech--and their curved backsides are said to reduce internal reflections and resonance to achieve purer sound and greater clarity. Definitive Technology ProCinema 80 System. Please check the fields highlighted in red. High Power Handling Actually, we had to remind ourselves that we were enjoying the company's. Great mid-range too, for a two-way. JBL J-350As, Def tech BP1X, Def Tech pro-center C2, Auditioned in the store the PM 100's which sounded incredible, so to seal the coffin shut, I purchased 4 200's, The probablity of getting evicted out of my apartment when I get this system (Oh well!). 5.25" Woofer and a 1" Aluminum Dome Tweeter, Full range sound I thought the sub module was off or something because it didn't appear overpowering like it did with the 100s. (C) Copyright 1996-2018. This method produced much better sound. The small footprint allows for a normal arrangement of furniture, TV, etc Again, my wife is happy. I will soon upgrade my receiver and later on I plan to upgrade to a C/L/R 2000 at center and upgrade to ProMonitor 200s in the rear. First thing I noticed was that they played considerably louder than the 100s with the same volume settings. And I excuse the looks because of the great sound. By faith I ordered a pair of 200s and took the 100s home for surround duty. The size and sound of the 200s give testimony to its build quality.The 200s were not a compromise at all after listening to them with both music and theater. Orchestral String sections: beautiful. It may not display this or other websites correctly. For the curious, my HT speaker set-up is all DefTech: 2004s at L/R main, ProCenter C2, ProMonitor 100s in L/R rear driven by a Yamaha A-V1105 receiver. The explosive score in Men in Black sure didn't sound as if it were sprouting from a compact sub/sat system. Nothing similar, but have owned Advent 10" 2-ways (ANCIENT, from my college bass-head days) and JBL ported 5.25" 2-way bookshelves. So without listening to the 200s, I bought the last pair they had in the chain (for some reason Myer-Emco is no longer carrying the 200s?!) I have recently been upgrading my hometheater system to provide better sound and video. Didn't matter. I placed the 04s in several different configurations, settling on ten inches from back wall, slight toe-in, tilted back with supplied spikes in front and supplied stabilizing feet in back and the built-in subs facing outward. After watching just one DVD, we thought that we'd pretty much sized up the Definitive Technology ProCinema 80 System's abilities. Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. I have spent many an hour listing to my system with both music and pictures. The sats have extraheavy-duty binding posts that can accept bare wire, spades, and banana plugs. Excellent match with the sub. Set-up was easy with the simple hook-up although stabilizing the heavy towers was a hassle: It took myself and a neighbor to safely affix the spikes and stabilizer feet. The 100s were okay [slightly better than the AM15 array], but wouldn't crossover cleanly with the powerful sub. 3 0 obj JavaScript is disabled. Apparently, their physical size belies their auditory presence across the whole line ProMonitor line! endobj % Wish I new about this site sooner. Plenty of bass without separate subwoofer But if your theater is large, we'd recommend stepping up to Definitive Technology's ProCinema 100 or 200 models. All Rights Reserved. I suspect that the profit margin is not quite as wide as with the PM80s and 100s. If Def Tech stuck this enclosure in a nice looking box they might sell more, and they would have more of a snooty appeal. So foar i have listened to is music. : The ProMonitor 80s I bought for surrounds are excellent also (and available in White to keep the wife-to-be happy). I looked at the specs and confirmed the higher sensitivity [91db] - which is excellent. Although I think placing them with no toe-in would open them up more without sacrificing imaging too much, Im pleased enough with the sound not adjust placement further. The sound is excellent for both music and DVDs.The stands could be improved, but this is a very minor point.Overall, the Definitive Technology system has been every bit as good as the magazine reviews and the comments here indicate. Home Automation, Accessories, Cables, and Remotes, http://www.definitivetechnology.com/cs.html#ProCin, Kino-Lorber Insider Announcement Thread (Read Guidelines Post #3), IDENTIKIT (aka THE DRIVER'S SEAT) starring Elizabeth Taylor coming to Blu-ray, JFK Revisited: Through The Looking Glass (2021). Sell in-demand gear to trusted buyers in seconds. The center speaker had a rich tonal balance, but we detected a slight cupped-hands coloration on dialogue in a few films. Mids are right on the money with exceptional vocals. I made the assumption that the 100s would not cut it for the front mains though. It goes low, but how low does an electric or stand-up bass go? By clicking Subscribe, I agree to receive exclusive offers & promotions, news & reviews, and personalized tips for buying and selling on Reverb. Finally, I really love the 04s look. I verified that the sub was indeed working, I then realized that the crossover was now seamless and the 200s were an EXCELLENT pairing with the hi-end Def-Tech sub [low-pass crossover at 60-70 hz]. roadbikereview.com | Absolutely amazing sound. The only negative is the frequent resetting of bass from music to HT and back. Difficult to stabilize properly endstream The all-black look fits with our dcor perfectly so even my wife is pleased. Thus I can set my center and rears to large and feed them full range sound. The single characteristic which is most amazing is that they maintain the aforementioned qualities at relatively high volume and they sound BIG. Right now I am using them without a sub and they have really impressed me with their bass output, especially for a speaker of their size. Knocking around this site, I came across the ProMonitor series. Lots and lots of speakers in general and many small speakers including the current Polks (which Stereophile mag loved but I think sound like they play through cardboard tubes though I generally like P, Gold posts, price/value, great sound, ported enclosier. Oops, looks like you forgot something. Music is more revealing than movies, and we started to notice that the Pro 80 system isn't the last word in detail resolution. You can hear the fingers sliding on acoustic guitar recordings; female vocalists are there in front of you. You are using an out of date browser. Sell in-demand gear to trusted buyers in secondsTrade In For CashTry it now. It looks like that piece of gear is gone. They easily rival some of the small 2 way speakers that are currently in vogue in the $1,500 to $2,500 range. Imaging is as good or better than non-bipolar speakers Ive listened to in the same price range. We rolled through a handful of our favorite DVDs and noted that the ProCinema 80's essential sound signature was forward and engaging. The lighter bass setting on music tightened up bass considerably, making me happy and the bass fiends still gobble it up. <> Soundstage is very, very wide considering the excellent imaging. Highs are light and accurate.
The bases provide a wide range of staging for abnormal settings like an apartment. It is truly dynamic, with one of the largest soundstages I have come across. Using my Yamaha RX-V1300 receiver with the ProLogic II Music and a Harman Kardon FL8380 HDCD player and a Monster Cable Digital Coax I started off by listening to Josh Groban because his voice is beautiful and deep this would be a serious test of the low octaves that the Pro200 could do well. You can even put them on the floor and angle them up, though it looks odd because of their size. I would recomend these speakers to anyone looking for a bookshelp speaker with a lot of kick, especially if they can find them for the price I paid for them. The design engineers didn't stop there, though, and included larger-than-average, 4.5-inch midrange drivers and annealed, aluminum-dome tweeters. Definitive sounds I have a few questions to you gents out there. 40 Hz? And music bass didnt seem as tight as the dual seven-inch woofers in my ADS 1090s. endobj I disagree. But my Dad's a recording engineer, so I've been exposed to lots of high end stuff in this lifetime. I was strongly considering the JBL S38s, but was essentially auditioning anything I could find in a bookshelf sized unit that had great full spectrum sound. I heard the 100's in the store on the "Gladiator" and the "Matrix" bank scene and I was awestruck. We tried that method first but felt that the sub/sat blend wasn't that good. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I can't wait to get a sub to complete the my system. QuarkXPress(tm) 6.5; modified using iTextSharp 5.1.3 (c) 1T3XT BVBADefinitive Technology Prosub1000 Quick Specs Superb sound Since I didnt want a freestanding subwoofer, I sound shopped for powered towers only. Having heard the Deftech Bi-Polar Big Brothers at Myer-Emco (A BP200x 5.1 set up) and swooned, I went back to check out what their little brothers could accomplish.Unfortunately, all they had on display to audition was a pair of 100s with the matching center and ProSub 100TL. Vocals are dead center front and drums seem behind the wall. Well gentlemen, thanks to your reviews and my own audition of course, I am eagerly awaiting my shipment of 4 Pro Monitor 200's, a huge but inexpensive upgrade to the PF 15TL Subwoofer (499) with 500 watt amp, and a YamahaRX-V800 Dolby Digital/DTS Receiver. Actually, we had to remind ourselves that we were enjoying the company's speaker system, as the powerful but surprisingly compact subwoofer and sats produce the sort of sound that we associate with larger and more expensive systems. The pint-sized sub features a 250-watt, high-current Mosfet power amplifier and an 8-inch polypropylene woofer and stands on adjustable (leveling) feet. The ProMonitors have a very clear and natural sound that doesn't pump up the treble like my prior JBL,Genesis or Bose speakers. Thanks to an extrapotent subwoofer, the ProCinema 80 System can kick out the home-theater jams. In the store, there was no question that the 100s needed the low end that the ProSub provides. However, the 04s that I listened to at Marvins sounded more open and airy. It even matches a hi-end sub like the Def-Tech PF15TL+ and a quality powered center for excellent integration.Please note that dealers are not too likely to carry them in stock or demo them either. The next phase consisted of aquiring left and right mains.I had to compromise somewhat on the mains since I also recently purchased a new 53" widescreen HDTV [Pioneer] and a progressive scan, DVD audio capable player [Panasonic RP91K].I listened to the PM100 and thought that they sounded pretty good. I just can't afford it (yet!). Tall, slender cabinets with easy to clean sock and caps. Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide. I hear Tools drum cymbals more distinctly and Miles Davis trumpet is clearer, cleaner, and more intimate than on my soft dome ADS 1090s. and these speakers did a better job than any other speakers for the money I have tried. I decided to buy a pair for the surrounds. I cannot imagine why a listener would want more bass than the 04s can deliver in music listening, with the possible exception of rap and/or electronic dance fans. 2022 CNET, a Red Ventures company. What this all adds up to is a system that's oriented a bit more toward home theater than music. The reason for purchasing another one is quite simple, I wanted to have a seamless sound across the front soundstage, and i wanted high powerhandling and especially full range frequency response. The soundstage seemed to extend from sidewall to sidewall to the ceiling.
Which is pretty remarkable, given these speakers' accuracy through the mid to high frequencies.OK, I've raved on long enough. These are obviously the best speakers I have heard under $500. Sting, Norah, Maynard, Sadewhoever; they all sound great. I got turned on to these little guys by reviewing this site. 2 0 obj It's what's inside that counts Simply an amazing speaker and a reliable company. [Did it ever]! In the end, the 04s in HT simply ROCK in their current set-up playing 70% HT to 30% stereo, although music listening will probably increase as my kids age. They have very good imaging, an open sound which is not brash, and limit bass as they should (because of drivers and enclosure) to about 60hz (my guess). I had a Bose Lifestyle Series II system for a day and returned it the next. Delivers wide soundstage with excellent imaging The 100s were not dynamic or mighty enough. Yes, some of the excitement could be traced to the way the compact ProSub 80 sub shook our large listening room like a grown-up subwoofer, flexing its muscles to great effect on the Saving Private Ryan DVD. To make a long story short: The DefTech ProMonitor 200 is a phenomenal speaker, especially in this price range, and an absolute steal at the price I paid!P.S. And the little sats didn't turn nasty or hard, even when we upped the volume to raucous levels. The NHTs, however, cost three times more than the 04s. The ProCinema 80 is not bad as a purveyor of tunes, but it's more at home with theater duty. Ex-movie theater projectionist Steve Guttenberg has also worked as a high-end audio salesman, and as a record producer. ADS 1090 The S38s were at the top of the list in spite of their rather massive size for a "bookshelf" (tongue firmly in cheek) speaker. If you want, you can go with the standard cabling regimen--hooking up all of the sats directly to the receiver, then running the sub from the receiver's subwoofer output via a long interconnect cable. I am back and i recently purchased another ProMonitor 200 for use as a center channel. Don't even waste your time with Bose, there is absolutely no comparison whatsoever. endobj The Grateful Dead's Workingman's Dead sounded pretty fine overall, but the acoustic guitars weren't as airy and open as they should have been, though we admit that Garcia's vocals sounded wonderfully present and natural. Purchased as part of a packageProMonitor 200 - frontProCenter C2 - centerProSub 200TL - subwooferBP 2X - surroundI'm very pleased with this package. What is the "proper" way to break in the speakers? I solved the problem by dialing back the bass level on the 04s to eight oclock for music, with HT at ten to eleven oclock. Exceptional build quality; impressive home-theater sound; compact, 250-watt subwoofer; all-metal speaker-binding posts. I dedided to give Def-Tech a try based on excellent reviews and good word of mouth recommendations from some friends.I first purchased a Def-Tech PF15TL+ sub and C/L/R 2300 powered center to give my audio a major boost after listening to them at Audio Video Now. I strongly recommend the 200s especially for the front mains. If you want high end without paying thousands of dollars, definitive is the way to go. This is my very first home theatre system so I'm pretty stoked. I have a few friends (total-destruction-of-home-interior bass fiends) that suggest my HT setup would benefit from an additional, dedicated subwoofer. Accurate vocals! The mids were definitely there. I connected the 100s temporarily in the front crossed over to the Def-Tech PF15TL 500w sub until the 200s arrived. carreview.com | Incredible bass response for such small woofers. I suspect that spending more money on the front mains will produce diminishing returns. <>stream Music bass, on the other hand, is merely great. So I'm not suffering greatly living without the sub in the short term. I knew that they were more than adequate for surrounds though.I picked up the 200s and they took the place of the 100s in the front crossed over to the PF15TL. <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC]/ExtGState<>>>/Type/Page>> Will play very, very loud with quality amplification, Placement challenges in some rooms I got the sense that the sub module was not coming into play anymore. Bass is great (music) to exceptional (HT), but please keep in mind that Im not a bass freak. True, the sub packs a mighty wallop, but it had a tendency to sound boomy and thick when pushed to high output levels. Other Web Sites in the ConsumerReview Network: mtbr.com | Available in black or white finishes, the six-piece ProCinema 80 doesn't look all that different from other compact systems but is in fact built to a higher standard. for only $10.00 more than the 100s listed for.I think what inpresses me most about the speakers was how LIVE they sound. photographyreview.com So I threw on a couple of movies like Saving Private Ryan to test the 200s with my new center [C/L/R 2300]. Great value I got them for $350, which is a much better price than many people on this page got them for. The same friends that suggested a sub for HT cant get enough of the 04s in music.
And while the Low-end is thin on these 200s (sadly, I have yet to scrape enough change together for the ProSub, which the 200s still need regardless of their larger size), I actually give the DefTech claimed 28hz rating more credence than I thought possible. So we read the owner's manual and discovered that Definitive recommends driving the sub from the receiver's left/right speaker outputs, hooking up the left/right speakers to the sub, and connecting the other sats directly to the receiver. All rights reserved. The second thing I noticed was that I was now getting full range sound. These little speakers kick butt!!! The 04s won easily against all but the NHTs. The truest test i always and will always be The General's Daughter HDCD this is the most underated soundtrack I have heard. %PDF-1.6 The sound is simply awesome. Badabing! Looks. Unfortunately, the dealer did not have the 200s for demo or in stock. Listened to AR, NHT, Polk, Klipsch, Infinity and others. These speakers sound great. Big full accurate sound in a little package; Remarkable value for the dollar, Will expose any weaknesses in poorly mastered recordings. Next I put on Elton John's and Tim Rice's AIDA and wow what timbre matching the voices sound exactly the same no matter which channel they came from be it Left,Center, or Right speakers. audioreview.com and the ConsumerReview Network are business units of Invenda Corporation. JACK AND THE BEANSTALK - 70th Anniversary Restoration! I can't believe these things. We next focused on DVD-Audio discs for our music tests. The company also provides versatile wall-mount options. | audioreview.com. Stands are free but do they have to be so flimsy? Fair condition gear should function but will show noticeable cosmetic damage or other issues.
speakers work fine fully functional just show normal wear see pics. sound quality, imaging, gold binding posts. Placement is easy, and they like corners. (I ordered the ProStand 200's) Can you place the adjusting swivel stand that comes with it on top of a floor stand securely? That's great, but the posts are so deeply recessed in the speakers' rear ends that it's almost impossible to use the first two options. You'll find these very same drivers in Def Tech's flagship tower speakers. <>stream
5 Stars. The ProCinema 80, which carries a price tag of $1,049 (list), is a serious contender for home-theater-oriented buyers. High Sensitivity. Within the next year I plan on pairing my Pro 200's with either a MK V-75 MKII or a Klipsch KSW 12. Speaker placement is far more critical than DefTech indicates. I have used these speakers for 4 months now and absolutly love them. What a surprise, the 200s made a sweet combination with the the 2300 as well. Needs high-end eletronics to really shine. The 200 Monitors will startle you. Great looking
5 0 obj I've never encountered these qualities to such an extent in a small speaker. HT bass (I use the LFE hook-up) is fantastic: Full but not overwhelming. That restricted my search to DefTech, Klipsch, AR, NHT, Polk and Infinity, plus a few others. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. After watching just one DVD, we thought that we'd pretty much sized up the Definitive Technology ProCinema 80 System's abilities. Watch this gear and we'll notify you if it becomes available again. Steve currently reviews audio products for CNET and works as a freelance writer for Stereophile. the only down side is the stands that can't hold the speaker straight, Luckily they can be removed very easily, so that is not a big problem.
I can not sit still as I try to patiently wait day by day for my order to arrive. they have a great natural sound, excellent imaging, and work great for music or HT. Those of you that can remember the really small Brauns of the early 70s or the Linnaems of the early 80s might remember the surprise of the great sound from the small box. It seemed to me the 04s pump out bass frequencies that shouldnt be there. Absolutely amazing sound, high quality, easily placed, low price.
I'll post a follow up review once I get it up and running. Break-in took a long time, but worth it!
H|W8}WmA[MQ$dbDLKG|"%["YUg{~YVbx?xL*Hi(E)KEQQ0EA:.8:L, Definitive Technology Prosub1000 Quick Specs. 1 0 obj What kind of stands do you have them on? Close inspection revealed that the sats' cabinets are molded PolyStone--a special, high-density material made by Def Tech--and their curved backsides are said to reduce internal reflections and resonance to achieve purer sound and greater clarity. Definitive Technology ProCinema 80 System. Please check the fields highlighted in red. High Power Handling Actually, we had to remind ourselves that we were enjoying the company's. Great mid-range too, for a two-way. JBL J-350As, Def tech BP1X, Def Tech pro-center C2, Auditioned in the store the PM 100's which sounded incredible, so to seal the coffin shut, I purchased 4 200's, The probablity of getting evicted out of my apartment when I get this system (Oh well!). 5.25" Woofer and a 1" Aluminum Dome Tweeter, Full range sound I thought the sub module was off or something because it didn't appear overpowering like it did with the 100s. (C) Copyright 1996-2018. This method produced much better sound. The small footprint allows for a normal arrangement of furniture, TV, etc Again, my wife is happy. I will soon upgrade my receiver and later on I plan to upgrade to a C/L/R 2000 at center and upgrade to ProMonitor 200s in the rear. First thing I noticed was that they played considerably louder than the 100s with the same volume settings. And I excuse the looks because of the great sound. By faith I ordered a pair of 200s and took the 100s home for surround duty. The size and sound of the 200s give testimony to its build quality.The 200s were not a compromise at all after listening to them with both music and theater. Orchestral String sections: beautiful. It may not display this or other websites correctly. For the curious, my HT speaker set-up is all DefTech: 2004s at L/R main, ProCenter C2, ProMonitor 100s in L/R rear driven by a Yamaha A-V1105 receiver. The explosive score in Men in Black sure didn't sound as if it were sprouting from a compact sub/sat system. Nothing similar, but have owned Advent 10" 2-ways (ANCIENT, from my college bass-head days) and JBL ported 5.25" 2-way bookshelves. So without listening to the 200s, I bought the last pair they had in the chain (for some reason Myer-Emco is no longer carrying the 200s?!) I have recently been upgrading my hometheater system to provide better sound and video. Didn't matter. I placed the 04s in several different configurations, settling on ten inches from back wall, slight toe-in, tilted back with supplied spikes in front and supplied stabilizing feet in back and the built-in subs facing outward. After watching just one DVD, we thought that we'd pretty much sized up the Definitive Technology ProCinema 80 System's abilities. Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. I have spent many an hour listing to my system with both music and pictures. The sats have extraheavy-duty binding posts that can accept bare wire, spades, and banana plugs. Excellent match with the sub. Set-up was easy with the simple hook-up although stabilizing the heavy towers was a hassle: It took myself and a neighbor to safely affix the spikes and stabilizer feet. The 100s were okay [slightly better than the AM15 array], but wouldn't crossover cleanly with the powerful sub. 3 0 obj JavaScript is disabled. Apparently, their physical size belies their auditory presence across the whole line ProMonitor line! endobj % Wish I new about this site sooner. Plenty of bass without separate subwoofer But if your theater is large, we'd recommend stepping up to Definitive Technology's ProCinema 100 or 200 models. All Rights Reserved. I suspect that the profit margin is not quite as wide as with the PM80s and 100s. If Def Tech stuck this enclosure in a nice looking box they might sell more, and they would have more of a snooty appeal. So foar i have listened to is music. : The ProMonitor 80s I bought for surrounds are excellent also (and available in White to keep the wife-to-be happy). I looked at the specs and confirmed the higher sensitivity [91db] - which is excellent. Although I think placing them with no toe-in would open them up more without sacrificing imaging too much, Im pleased enough with the sound not adjust placement further. The sound is excellent for both music and DVDs.The stands could be improved, but this is a very minor point.Overall, the Definitive Technology system has been every bit as good as the magazine reviews and the comments here indicate. Home Automation, Accessories, Cables, and Remotes, http://www.definitivetechnology.com/cs.html#ProCin, Kino-Lorber Insider Announcement Thread (Read Guidelines Post #3), IDENTIKIT (aka THE DRIVER'S SEAT) starring Elizabeth Taylor coming to Blu-ray, JFK Revisited: Through The Looking Glass (2021). Sell in-demand gear to trusted buyers in seconds. The center speaker had a rich tonal balance, but we detected a slight cupped-hands coloration on dialogue in a few films. Mids are right on the money with exceptional vocals. I made the assumption that the 100s would not cut it for the front mains though. It goes low, but how low does an electric or stand-up bass go? By clicking Subscribe, I agree to receive exclusive offers & promotions, news & reviews, and personalized tips for buying and selling on Reverb. Finally, I really love the 04s look. I verified that the sub was indeed working, I then realized that the crossover was now seamless and the 200s were an EXCELLENT pairing with the hi-end Def-Tech sub [low-pass crossover at 60-70 hz]. roadbikereview.com | Absolutely amazing sound. The only negative is the frequent resetting of bass from music to HT and back. Difficult to stabilize properly endstream The all-black look fits with our dcor perfectly so even my wife is pleased. Thus I can set my center and rears to large and feed them full range sound. The single characteristic which is most amazing is that they maintain the aforementioned qualities at relatively high volume and they sound BIG. Right now I am using them without a sub and they have really impressed me with their bass output, especially for a speaker of their size. Knocking around this site, I came across the ProMonitor series. Lots and lots of speakers in general and many small speakers including the current Polks (which Stereophile mag loved but I think sound like they play through cardboard tubes though I generally like P, Gold posts, price/value, great sound, ported enclosier. Oops, looks like you forgot something. Music is more revealing than movies, and we started to notice that the Pro 80 system isn't the last word in detail resolution. You can hear the fingers sliding on acoustic guitar recordings; female vocalists are there in front of you. You are using an out of date browser. Sell in-demand gear to trusted buyers in secondsTrade In For CashTry it now. It looks like that piece of gear is gone. They easily rival some of the small 2 way speakers that are currently in vogue in the $1,500 to $2,500 range. Imaging is as good or better than non-bipolar speakers Ive listened to in the same price range. We rolled through a handful of our favorite DVDs and noted that the ProCinema 80's essential sound signature was forward and engaging. The lighter bass setting on music tightened up bass considerably, making me happy and the bass fiends still gobble it up. <> Soundstage is very, very wide considering the excellent imaging. Highs are light and accurate.